DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I broke up with my ex, and my only female relationship, a few years back and took time to enjoy the solitude.
I have tried dating apps, but the nerd ladies I like either seem to leave me on read, or pass me over. What few ladies I know in Discord are either gay or in a relationship.
At this point, I can only come up with visiting nerdy locations like comic stores and asking ladies to go out with me, which is just bad form.
I was never the popular guy in high-school, and I was focused on my studies in college. My last relationship was literally pushed into me by her sister.
As I near 37, the very real fear of being alone is slowly creeping in. I don’t drink, I can’t be physically active, and I’m not religious, so visiting church events feels wrong.
Where do I meet single nerdy women?
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DEAR FLOOKING FOR GROUP: Ok, this is a two-part issue – one part logistics and one part skill issue. If you don’t deal with both sides of this particular equation, nothing’s going to work.
The first thing is very simple: how do you engage with your nerdy interests? It sounds to me like the majority of your socializing around your passions are conducted online, which is part of the problem. Don’t get me wrong: I’m not anti-online communities. I’ve a sizable number friends whom I knew for decades before we ever met in person. But it’s very hard to try to start a relationship with someone you’ve only known online.
I know that people talk about getting to know the “real” person, or how they’re attracted to their mind and/or soul, but the fact of the matter is, we’re all meat robots and there’s no separating the importance of blood and flesh and hormones and pheromones. Love, as the sage once said, isn’t brains, it’s blood, screaming at you to work its will. There are a lot of factors that dictate who we’re attracted to that you can only pick up on when you’re in physical proximity to a person – even voice chat or video won’t convey those intangibles that make one person a yik and another a yum.
So, part of your solution is going to be to start going to places where your fellow geeks gather. Comic shops are one place, sure… but so are stores and coffee shops or even bars that host tabletop nights. Or you might see what events are being hosted by your local barcade or even singles events that’re hosted in your city.
The biggest thing is that you have to be willing to push at what you perceive to be your limitations and to think beyond that first guess. Not having any ideas besides the ones that seem most obvious isn’t an indication that you don’t have options, it’s a sign that you need to do more research and not just toss things aside out of hand. Geeks don’t tend to have only one interest or only gather at events that are explicitly labeled as being geeky. You might find your fellow geeks at a bar that does Murderbot watch parties or in cooking classes because they really got into Delicious in Dungeon, or at gaming events.
Similarly, the fact that you don’t drink doesn’t mean that a geeky-themed bar is off-limits. For one, nobody’s going to care if you’re having a Diet Coke instead of a Jack Daniels, or if you’re carrying a tonic water with lime instead of a G&T. For another, more and more bars offering non-alcoholic options besides sodas or lemonade; a lot of places have been going out of their way and putting as much care into their mocktails and non-boozy drinks as they do in to their beer and cocktail offerings.
(It should go without saying that if, say, going to bars would threaten your sobriety, then they’re clearly a no-go for you. It’s more about ruling out options because you think they won’t work, without actually trying them.)
But knowing’s only half the battle. The other half is actually connecting to people. And this is one that’s going to be more of a challenge for you because – as you said – you haven’t gone out and found a partner on your own. That’s something you’re going to have to work on… and it means adjusting your expectations accordingly.
See, I think part of the problem is that you’re expecting instant results – both in terms of “the women you are into will be present as soon as you arrive” but also “See hot woman – ??? – have girlfriend!” That’s something that’s going to hold you back, if you don’t pay attention.
For one thing, much as needing to move beyond just your initial (and only) idea of where to go, you need to think beyond who’s in the immediate vicinity when you go to a venue. Just because there’re no attractive and single people doesn’t mean that your trip was wasted. For one: not everyone goes on the same nights. For another: even if it’s nothing but partnered people or women who think you’re nice enough but aren’t interested in dating you… that doesn’t mean they don’t have friends. A lot of success when it comes to dating is about knowing how to network and just meet people. Much as in business, the guy you met at a work conference may not be the guy who can offer you a job or invest in your start-up… but they may know someone who is.
For another, there’s the matter of how to connect with folks, even if they’re hot and single. If you’re rolling into a place like a horny Pac-Man trying to get to a power pellet, people are going to react badly. Part of the reason why going to a comic store and just hitting on the women there would be a bad idea is that this is not how most people start relationships. Very, very few people start dating a stranger they met twenty minutes ago. Even on dating apps, there’s a period of talking, establishing mutual chemistry and trust before that first meet up, never mind a date.
Similarly, people aren’t necessarily going to the comic store to get dates. They’re there to get comics, and maybe to socialize with other comic lovers. And while some of them may well be single and looking, that doesn’t mean that they’re going to be in a socializing headspace immediately. Rolling in like it’s a singles bar is going to be incongruous at best, and people are going to think that sort of behavior is weird.
This is part of why I talk a lot about dating slow – that is, taking a more measured pace and getting to know people over time. Not just women – people. Becoming a known quantity at the TTRPG night or the pub trivia or the coffee shop is incredibly helpful when it comes to building your social, in-person network; people who’ve seen you and interacted with you regularly get to know you, feel comfortable with you and can vouch for you to others; they’re providing social proof that you’re a good person and worth getting to know.
Meanwhile, taking time to get to know people and just talking – even when they’re folks who you want to date – gives you an opportunity to connect with them, find out what you have in common and see what they’ve got going for them besides their looks. When you first meet someone, you know nothing about them besides what’s on the surface. And while they may be hot as hell and rocking a Ghost-Spider hoodie… you still don’t know anything about them. There may well be hidden aspects that leave you going “yeah, not even with a borrowed dick and Sabrina Carpenter to do the pushing”.
And by focusing on getting to know them, rather than trying to get a date also takes the pressure off to perform. Instead of trying to speed your way to getting her number and becoming incredibly, painfully self-conscious, you can just be in the moment and vibe with them. This not only means that you get to find out if they’re worth your time, but they get to know what makes you uniquely you – something that matters a lot to attraction, especially attraction built over time.
So I’d recommend that instead of taking a shotgun approach of firing off rounds at every attractive single nerdy woman you see, you give yourself time to just talk, make connections and see where things go. If, over the course of a conversation (or two or three or five…) it seems like there’s a mutual vibe going on, then it’s the most natural thing in the world to say “hey, I’m really enjoying talking to you; is it cool if I add you on WhatsApp?” or “By the way, there’s a video-gamed themed art show opening at $_GALLERY this weekend that I was going to go to, and I think you’d really enjoy it. Would you like to go with me?”
Do your research, find where your fellow geeks gather and spend time there. Just hang out, talk with folks and get to know people. Before long, you’ll be meeting many special someones, and you’ll have laid the groundwork to asking them out on some awesome dates.
Good luck.
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