DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: We really are living the darkest timeline and it only seems to get more and more hopeless. From Trump and Musk getting drunk with power and the many people around you who knew what they were doing because they wanted to upset the other side. It’s so hard to remain optimistic even hopeful and it doesn’t help that getting more and more hopeless. A small part of me is convinced being nice or kind isn’t really the way to succeed in either dating or anything really, like the people who climb to the top of society lied, manipulated, backstabbed and threw others under the bus to get to where they are now like Elon Musk or Martin Shkreli, and if consequences come it’s usually a slap on the wrist like Shkreli got.
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Same with dating, I’m saying this earnestly say this; good guys don’t even finish last, they don’t even start period but at the same time I wanna be the good guy lots of women supposedly yearn for but it’s very hard when year stories like this; Neo Nazis who get married and have families, Men who appeared on Chris Hansen’s to Catch A Predator who got married after getting caught or monsters in prisons like Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez or Ian Watkins getting conjugal visits and love letters from lots of women (side note you never see men going crazy over serial killer women like Karla Hamolka or Cassey Anthony like this)
Drug Dealers who ravaged and destroyed communities around me buying their 2nd Lamborghini for their big house. Like I’m sorry but yeah this isn’t fair, but I’ve trying to live honestly and earnestly with my morals and yet haven’t gotten in a relationship yet even though I’m nothing like the guys who I described. Which surprise it’s another source of my own anxiety because if there is something Intersectional sex positive progressives (just look how LGBT community treats ACE people who aren’t interested in kink or being slutty) and alpha male manosphere red pill types both fundamentally agree on is that a man with no relationship experience or sexual experience IE incel/virgin (these days you can’t separate the two) is a man of low to non-existent value. Because shocker sexual experience is tied with his moral character, whether he’s desired by other women because well women want a man who’s desirable to other women and if he’s a virgin especially at an older age (that’s me) he’s therefore unf--kable, undesirable and unlovable and reasons why it hasn’t happened are irrelevant. And well trying to look for stories of women who’ve slept with or dated older virgins and well it with every positive encounter you’ll have like 10 stories the story of her being bored and leaving to well just wanting an “upgrade”.
So how do I keep this light shining in this bleak hell world, how do I keep that spark of hope as said hopelessness and anxiety is consuming me? How do I stop self-harming and self-sabotaging myself for my shortcomings and failures?
Sincerely
Keeping the Spark Alight
DEAR KEEPING THE SPARK ALIGHT: I’m not exactly surprised to be getting more letters like this, considering, well, everything. I’d recommend you check out some of the other letters I’ve covered on this topic as a starting point, KSA, but there’re a couple things that you bring up, specifically, that I feel should be addressed.
Let’s start off with debunking a myth: the number of romantically idolized serial killers and the like is vastly overstated and poorly explained. While many criminals have had their fans – Pretty Boy Floyd, Bonnie and Clyde and others are some prime examples – this is as much about media coverage and the effects of glamour and infamy. Pretty Boy Floyd, for example, was popular in part because he consciously affected a Robin Hood persona of robbing from banks (at a time when banks were busy foreclosing on everyone) and giving money to people who’d hide him from the police. That helped make him an underdog or folk hero in the eyes of many, rather than a violent criminal.
But with regards to serial killers like Bundy or Ramirez, it’s more accurate to say that people are drawn to them because people want the transitive power of fame and celebrity, more than it being about attraction to the individual. Much of the myth of their appeal ties far more to their portrayal in movies by conventionally attractive actors like Mark Harmon or Zac Effron, and the fact that they featured in movies at all.
Ariel Castro and Josef Fritzl weren’t exactly dealing with hordes of women throwing their panties at them, nor is there a line of women dying to hook up with folks who, say, shot a bunch of people in a bodega during a robbery.
Focusing on the outliers just creates a false impression that really only serves to reinforce your pre-existing beliefs and a sense that evil should be inherently repugnant to people and the universe in general. Which actually brings me to my next point.
The litany of complaints you give right at the top can really be summed up with “it really sucks when bad people don’t get punished for being bad”. And… yes. It does. It’s not fair. But fairness isn’t the issue here. The problem you’re having is that you’re expecting the universe to be fair and to do the punishing.
This is what’s known as the Just World Fallacy – the idea that people “get what they deserve”, as though there’s a morality mechanic to life and if you cross a particular threshold, you get handed appropriate rewards or punishments. It’s something that comes up a lot when we see folks that we think are succeeding despite being awful… but it also comes up when we think about folks who get harmed by others. A lot of victims of assault, rape, robbery and so on are treated as though they “deserve” their suffering. If someone’s not the ‘perfect’ victim, they’re often disbelieved or treated as though they’re responsible for what happened to them. People who are suffering from poverty, being unhoused, dealing with addiction issues… if they don’t fit the “right” narrative, it’s often seen as being their fault.
This is why I actually appreciate the inherent unfairness of life, even if I wish it were otherwise. It’s a reminder that life is something that happens, and it’s up to us to shape and direct it. To quote Marcus Cole: “I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, ‘Wouldn’t it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?’ So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.”
The problem with holding onto the idea that good is rewarded and evil is punished is that it tends to blind us to the world around us and why things happen the way they do. When we attribute reward and punishment to God, the universe, karma, whatever, we don’t have any real motivation to look around and say “hang on a minute… this isn’t right.” It lets us off the hook because hey, what can you do, that’s how the universe works…
(And I wouldn’t be me if I didn’t point out that karmic outcomes are something that happens after you die. Karma doesn’t reward or punish you in this life, it determines what happens to you in the next life. The same thing applies in Christian theology: you get punished for your sins in the afterlife, not during.)
Karma isn’t responsible for, say, people being unhoused, minorities being sentenced to longer and harsher penalties than white people convicted of similar crimes or why some crimes get punished and others go uninvestigated. That’s not a matter of God having left the building, that’s the result of structural issues within society. Those structural and systematic problems aren’t the result of laws of nature or acts of a divine system of morality, they’re systems and structures created by people.
That means, in turn, that it’s up to people to fix them. A more just, equitable world isn’t going to just happen; it’s on us to make it happen. That means having to take your own agency and privilege and put it to use. The moral arc of the universe bends towards justice, not because of any natural law, but because a whole bunch of determined motherf--kers grabbed onto one end and started pulling. If justice is going to be inevitable, it’s going to take people who make it so, rather than hoping and waiting.
That same issue – that the punishment and rewards come from people taking action, rather than from inherent fairness of the universe – applies to your other complaints too. You’re attributing romantic success or failure to both the unfairness of the universe, perceived slights and the supposedly inalterable attitudes of people based on little more supposition and self-limiting beliefs and occasional s--tty posts on social media that confirm your preexisting beliefs.
It doesn’t exactly take the work of a master detective to figure out how much time you’re spending on incel forums and listening to other people complain about why bad boys win and nice guys lose and crafting grand theories that tacitly ignore things like “developing charisma” and “being assertive and making a move” and instead attributing it to evopsych bulls--t. Attributing sexual experience to moral character is just the same s--t drenched in different artificial flavoring.
To be blunt: your entire argument barely hangs together at all and is entirely dependent on begging the question. The only way it makes any sense requires first accepting the premise as being correct and then relying on random forum posts that your confirmation bias regards as “proof” while conveniently hand-waving away equally anecdotal posts that don’t confirm your priors. You’re buying into all sorts of bulls--t – such as “women want men who are desired by other women” – that comes almost entirely from people in the PUA/Red-pill crowds, whose sources are “dude trust me” and “everyone knows this”. At best, the people you’re hearing from are misunderstanding the concept of vetting or social proof; at worst, they’re relying on things that pick-up artists like Mystery wrote back in 2004. These are theories that, I might point out, were composed under the rigorous scientific method of “yeah, sounds about right to me” while sitting around at an LA diner at 4 AM.
And to add to it all, you’re creating and mixing up examples that have nothing to do with one another, in order to prop up your confirmation bias around virginity and morality. Being part of the LGBTQ community doesn’t automatically make you sex-positive, nor a progressive, nor does that have anything to do with the supposed desirability or seeming flaws of someone who’s a virgin. Queer people can be assholes, the same way straight people can. Queer and straight people can even be s--tty to the same people for the same reason – just ask bi and pan folks. But that has nothing to do with anything that you’re talking about, nor does it even tie into your complaints about fairness or morality. You’ve moved from morality to social value and status, and the two are rather clearly not the same… even if you’re treating both as things that just happen rather than acts of deliberate will.
Much like justice and fairness, social value or status doesn’t just “happen”, nor does it get handed out. These things are cultivated and created, born out of action, not mere existence, and value and status are as deeply personal and nuanced as what makes someone attractive. Put me next to various sports heroes, and while I may have some admiration for their athleticism, I don’t find them particularly awe-inspiring, nor do I really find them to have great social value or cachet among me and my friends. Drop someone like Matt Mercer, Lou Wilson, Lindsay Ellis or Hbomberguy in the mix, on the other hand and people will lose their goddamn minds. And the same goes both ways; people I went to high-school or college with could meet Brennan Lee Mulligan and have no idea who he is or why he’s a big deal, even though he sold out Madison Square Garden.
All of which is to say that you’re creating all sorts of reasons and theories to explain why things are unfair and hopeless, when all you’re really doing is just reinforcing your own sense of helplessness and lack of agency. Just as it takes people to bend the moral arc of the universe – that is, people taking an active hand in shaping the world around them – it takes being an active participant in your own life to build and generate attraction.
All any of this is, is another variation of thinking that being a “nice guy” is all it takes for people to be interested in you – as though sex is the reward for maxing out the light side of the morality meter. It’s not. Sex and attraction comes about through interaction with other people and – importantly – how you make them feel. Being isn’t the same thing as doing, and hoping that just being is going to do the work for you is a fool’s errand at best.
Even someone who’s classically handsome has to actually put in effort – both in terms of presentation to make themselves look good, but also in interpersonal connection. Just standing there like a handsome statue doesn’t get you laid.
As I’ve said before: the sex-gettingest men I have ever known have run the gamut from tall and muscular to short and fat, from classically handsome to borderline gargoyle… but every single one of them were fun to be around. They made people feel good. They were taking an active hand in getting to know people, connecting with them and building attraction, rather than hoping that someone would just intuit their positive qualities. Just as importantly, they didn’t attribute their failures – and they did indeed have failures, as every human does – to unfairness or injustice in the universe or some all-encompassing attitude about whatever random quality they may have. They took it as either “this didn’t work” or “this person wasn’t right for me” and moved on.
It’s undeniable that the world is an unfair place. But that’s because that’s just the world. It is what we make of it. If we want a better world, we have to take action to make it so. And to be clear, people are. The Tesla Takedown movement is producing very real results, sapping away at the financial fiction that gives Elon Musk any sort of authority or influence. Protests have been forcing the administration to reverse course, while people have been making their elected officials actually serve the public interest as the public that they serve expresses precisely how pissed off they are. Action gets the job done.
The same applies to your personal life. If you want things to be different, you have to do things differently. And in many cases that means actually doing things. If you want people to see you as a viable sexual partner, you have to take action to make yourself one. That means, among other things, letting go of the idea that being a virgin automatically disqualifies you or that being “good” is all it takes. You have to work on your social skills and your presentation. You have to actually go and meet people, to put yourself out there and connect with folks instead of hoping that it will “just happen”.
You also need to take your foot off the brakes and stop doing the stupid things that only serve to demotivate you. This is, yet again, why I tell people to get the f--k off the Internet, go outside and touch grass. If you’re doing nothing but marinating in your own misery online, that’s all you’re going to see, because all your socials will gleefully serve up as much as you can slurp down. All you’re doing is just listening to other crabs in the same bucket, telling you that it’s all pointless and hopeless and you should give up. They want to pull down anyone who tries to crawl back out because if someone does get out of the bucket, it means that they have to confront how much of this is the result of their own choices.
Getting off the socials, closing your accounts and making a point of going out and interacting with real people, in the physical world will do you far more good than any amount of searching Reddit for the incel equivalent of just-so stories. Taking deliberate action to make changes in your life will give you better results and change your attitude much faster than sitting around, complaining that there are weirdos writing to serial killers in prison.
And, incidentally, considering you drop comments about self-harm at the end of your letter, one of the steps you should be taking is get your ass to therapy.
You can be a bystander in life, or you can be an active participant. But if you choose to just be, instead of taking on an active role, then you have little to complain about when your dreams just pass you by without stopping. It’s only going to happen when you make it happen.
Good luck.
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