DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I need your help with a very stupid problem.
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I (M/27) am dating an incredible woman, “Susan” (F/27) for a couple years now. I can’t believe how lucky I am to be with her because quite frankly, she’s way out of my league. She makes me laugh, she’s the sweetest and most genuine person I’ve ever known and I’ve never been with someone who’s been such a perfect mix of supportive and independent. And for whatever reason, she loves me too and thinks she’s lucky to have ME. We’ve been talking about getting married and the main reason I haven’t popped the question is that I’ve been saving up for the ring I want to have made for her.
The problem is that I am irrationally jealous, and it’s making me go insane. If she’s talking to other guys, I feel a knife twisting in my guts. When she’s having a night out with her girlfriends, I have all sorts of worries that some guy’s going to try to flirt with her or pick her up. It happens enough that I even have nightmares about coming home and finding her in bed with someone else. It flares up and I feel almost nauseous for a while.
I need to be clear here: I know my jealousy is completely irrational and baseless and I’m trying my hardest to keep it out of our relationship. Susan has never once given me even the slightest reason to question how she feels about me, even if I don’t get it, and I trust her absolutely and completely. She’s never made me feel unimportant or unloved, I never feel like I have to fight for her attention and I have no doubt that I’m her priority as much as she is mine. There’s no actual basis for these dark thoughts.
I do my best not to act on these feelings. I don’t tell her who she can or can’t talk to, I don’t try to keep track of her at all times, even if some part of me really wants to and the rest of me thinks that would only make things worse. The only sort of information I ask of her when she’s going out without me is a general idea of what her plans are and when I should expect her back and when I should start worrying that I haven’t heard from her, and I do the same for her when I go out without her. I don’t text her when she’s out with friends outside of letting her know I might not be home when she gets back or if something important comes up and she does the same for me. Occasionally we might send a funny text or say “hey, I’m going to bed, let me know if you’re staying out longer.” You know, basic couple stuff.
I’ve never had a reason to worry about her with other people – men, women, friends, strangers, anyone. Her guy friends are nice enough, and I think the sun would literally fall out of the sky before she ever cheated on anyone. I have no doubt that the hottest celebrity could hit on her and the first words out of her mouth would be “thanks but I have a boyfriend.” I don’t think it could even be that my subconscious is picking up on signals the way some of the people I see on TikTok say. I think it’s just me.
That’s precisely why this bothers me so much. I trust her, I have no reason to ever doubt her, but some part of my brain doesn’t or something and I hate the way that it makes me feel. I’m trying to keep Susan from worrying and I don’t want to make her feel like she needs to avoid things that make me feel this way, so I don’t tell her about any of this, but I think she can tell that something’s bothering me. Apparently, I’m really grinding my teeth a lot, especially at night, and I’m being tense and stiff at times.
I know you’re not a doctor, doctor, but do you have any idea what the hell is wrong with me? Why am I having these irrational fits of jealousy and what should I do about it?
Mean And Green (Eyed)
DEAR MEAN AND GREEN (EYED): Quick question, M&GE: you don’t say anything about this in your letter but are you any particular flavor of neurodivergent? Do you have ADHD, are you on the autism spectrum or have you ever been treated for something like borderline personality disorder?
I ask because some of what you describe sounds an awful lot like an especially malignant version of rejection-sensitive dysphoria, which tends to be co-morbid with ADHD and other neurospicy conditions. RSD takes the normal worries and anxieties we all have around rejection and loss, dials them up to 12 and then snaps the dial off. A lot of people who get the neurodivergence/RSD combo platter deal with a sort of hypervigilance; they’re always on the alert for signs that they’re about to get rejected or dumped. Almost anything can set it off – a different tone in their voice, how long it takes to reply to a text, even just word-choice or an almost imperceptible pause between being asked something and answering. It’s like having rejection PTSD, but usually without actual trauma to be post-.
If you haven’t been tested for ADHD or other similar conditions and you have symptoms or behaviors – besides your jealousy – that line up with them, it may not be the worst idea in the world to get tested. Speaking strictly for myself, as someone who discovered he had the ADHD/RSD combo meal in his 40s, I notice a significant difference when I’ve had my Vyvanse vs. days when I haven’t.
But let’s put that aside for the moment and talk a bit about what you’re experiencing. I’m not sure you’re jealous, per se; jealousy, after all, is a fear that someone is going to take what you have. Nor, for that matter, are you suspicious or covetous or feel some sort of unfounded rivalry. I think you may be feeling a fear of loss; not that you think she’s going to leave you for someone else but simply that she’s going to leave. I suspect that the things you imagine and the pain you feel show up when they do and the way they do because that’s a common nightmare scenario and it’s a constant part of the cultural zeitgeist. I think that the true fear is that she (and your relationship) is too good to be true.
I assume you’d say if this has been an issue from the beginning, so I do wish you’d mentioned when this started. That could give an idea as to whether there was some change or initial event that triggered these feelings, or if this is just free-floating anxiety that hit you out of the clear blue sky. The thing about jealousy, especially when it’s unfounded, is that it’s a lot like a check-engine light coming on in a car. It’s an indication that something needs attention, but what it could be is up in the air. Sometimes it’s a warning that the engine’s about to fall out of the car or some important part is about to go boom; other times it’s telling you that you didn’t tighten the gas cap all the way after you stopped to fill up the tank. If you had some significant event or change in your life, that might explain why you’re feeling this way.
If I had to guess, I’d suspect the issue can be found here: “quite frankly, she’s way out of my league” and “even if I don’t get it.” One of the potential drawbacks to dating someone who’s supposedly “out of your league” is feeling like you don’t deserve them or that you don’t match them in some important way. This is one of the reasons why I don’t like the concept of leagues; it implies that your being with that person is a mistake somehow, that you’re a poor match for one another. To my mind, it’s very simple: if someone likes you and wants to date you, you’re in their league. But if you aren’t secure in yourself or you feel like you don’t “deserve” this person, sometimes that can curdle inside; what starts as vague anxiety can metastasize into something ugly and unpleasant.
There’s also the possibility that maybe you don’t trust yourself to be happy or to make this work. Sometimes what people are most afraid of, especially when it comes to trying to date someone they see as being ‘out of their league’ isn’t failure, but success. In a perverse sort of way, getting with someone you see as being so incredible can be horrifying because now you are responsible for the relationship. You have to deal with the risks and trials and tribulations that come with dating a person and you have an even greater risk of heartbreak than you did before. If you were rejected, then the status quo hasn’t meaningfully changed. But if you f--k up somehow or fail the relationship… well, it’s a little like dying and then being yanked out to Heaven. You’ve known paradise; how’re you supposed to live without it now that you’ve experienced it?
It may be worth digging into this question: do you feel like you deserve to be happy or to have someone who makes you happy the way Susan does? Do you feel that you’re undeserving of having a great relationship? Is that fear less about jealousy and more about not being “worthy”? Or that you’ve done something wrong in your past that disqualifies you from having this happiness? Do you feel that whatever qualities you have aren’t actually enough for her and eventually she’s going to figure that out?
I think you’re right in as much that it’s irrational. It doesn’t sound like you have anything to actually be worried about – at least, logically. In as much as logic applies in these cases, anyway.
You clearly have things that Susan loves and values, and it sounds like she’s thrilled to be with you. That, I think, makes it clear that you absolutely are in her league – especially as far as she’s concerned. Seeing as she’s the one who’s chosen to be with you and you’re both actively talking about marriage, it seems safe to say that this is more a bugbear of the mind, rather than your subconscious trying to tell you something. With as painful and intrusive as these thoughts have been, it may be worth talking to someone to help root around in your feels and see if there’s an underlying self-esteem or self-worth issue to untangle.
But the other thing I would suggest is that you shouldn’t hide that you’re having these feelings from Susan. She already is picking up on the tension in you, and I would imagine that bothers her; after all, nobody likes seeing their partner in pain or under stress. I imagine it would make her worry when she detects this anxiety in you, and I think she’d be shocked and sad to know you’re feeling this way. I feel confident in saying that she would want to help you in any way she could.
So perhaps part of what you need is to just be honest with her: you’re having these irrational feelings that you know are irrational, but they still hurt. Instead of trying to hide them, or ask her to not do things that make you feel them, whenever they come up, ask her if she could love you a little louder. I think that’ll ease things a lot more than trying to grit your teeth and white-knuckle your way through them.
Good luck.
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